Absurd attacks on movie Avatar

[CWOJackson]

I've heard some on the right complaining it was anti-American and/or anti-capitalism but here's two accusations/complaints I didn't see coming:

1) There weren't any "gay" aliens.

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID13184/images/4087f6b649b1a-88-1.jpg

http://www.examiner.com/x-13184-Sacramento-Comic-Books-Examiner~y2009m12d18-LGBT-protestAvatar

2) It's (white) racist.

http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar

[Toastmaker]

This pathetic rant (in your links) reminds me of when I lived in Mexico and watched a lot of Mexican and Latin American produced movies that commonly belittled and vilified non-hispanics (sometimes good-naturedly and sometimes not).

Hollywood produces movies for the largest domestic audience they can, as a business tactic, and that would be a 78% White audience, by the way. There is lots of inclusiveness in the movies and TV but if you want to see other, more "browner" points of view - go see movies from the highest producing cinema industry in the world - India.

Although it's true to a degree that we would see less of these "White-guilt" based movies as soon as Whites abandon the stupidity of this guilt phenomenon.

That failing, if you don't like what you see on the screen - go read a ****ing book!




:beach3: = :laugh:

[Snuffy]

Go tell someone who cares. :prop:

[CWOJackson]

:biglol:




That failing, if you don't like what you see on the screen - go read a ****ing book!




Now I'm feeling ashamed; we just enjoyed "Dancing with Thunder Smurfs". How could we have missed all the underlying meanings, nuances and social injustices.

[bzhyoyo]

actually the analysis of the second link is quite accurate, not in the fact that Avatar is racist, but that it's a hackneyed story line. I've just watched it this afternoon, and it was a blast visually but the story left me stone cold. To me, anyway, the most telling aspect of this movie is that this kind of movie is the answer of the major studios to pirating: there's absolutely no point in watching this kind of movie on your tv. However, maybe that's why I'm not so enthusiastic about the story, I was too much into the images and the visual aspect that I frankly didn't care that much.
If you go by the queue lines in Paris to see the movie, then it will surely break all records for most seen movie of history. You'd better book a ticket by internet if you want good seats. One thing I also noticed (I had read about it on the internet) is that the focus on the image becomes clearer once the projector used is "heated".
Anyway, I think I know the feeling the first people to have seen a movie at the turn of the 20th century must have experienced.

[Toastmaker]

I think the big draw must be the hyped CGI and FX details. The story, as indicated, is ripped off from numerous others and a snoozer.

Remember all the "Rocky" movies? Incredibly, ALL of them did pretty well at the box office regardless of the fact that EVERYONE knew exactly what was going to happen, just like the last one. . . Mindless !!

It's not the steak, it's the sizzle. . . SELL THE SIZZLE and the masses will buy the steak, regardless of quality!

Salesmanship 101

[Willy]

Am I the only one on the planet who doesn't give a **** about seeing this movie?

[Scratch]

I've heard some on the right complaining it was anti-American and/or anti-capitalism but here's two accusations/complaints I didn't see coming:

1) There weren't any "gay" aliens.

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID13184/images/4087f6b649b1a-88-1.jpg

http://www.examiner.com/x-13184-Sacramento-Comic-Books-Examiner~y2009m12d18-LGBT-protestAvatar

2) It's (white) racist.

http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar

Braindead morons.

[Burning Beard]

Nope.

Beard

[Toastmaker]

No, Willy, you see - you're not alone ! Not much interest here either.

[bzhyoyo]

well, you'll miss something visually.
Anyway, in the previews before the movies, the next Tim Burton will be 3D and no less an adaptation on the screen of Alice in Wonderland! Now THAT's a movie I'll go and see in a theatre!

[Nausicaa]

I just saw Avatar tonight in stereoscopic 3D.

The movie cannot be described, it must be experienced. But how often do you get to see a turning point in cinematic history? Not often. The story is simple, but it would be unfair to call it bad. It works on an archetypal level; the problem is just that it has been told a little bit too often in Pocahontas or Dances with Wolves and others.
But the true "trip" of this film is being - and mean really being, on an extraterrestrial planet. The world of Pandora is awe inspiring. I know a lot about cinema special effects and how they are done: I was jaw dropped by the achievement of this film. It's a milestone that will take another decade to even be approached, let alone outclassed - The realism of this fantasy world is extraordinary; from the opening shot to the closing credits. Cameron wrote cinema history again. What a career !

[Toastmaker]

Hmmm. . . well, believe it or not, I value your technical expertise in this subject. Maybe I shouldn't dismiss it just due to a tired story-line.

I'll give it a look if I can find time around here -

[Willy]

The theater over at Bugtussle just got technicolor, so I doubt that any 3d effects will work around here.

[CWOJackson]

Toast, I'd be hard pressed to think of a movie I've seen in the last decade that didn't borrow heavily on previous story lines to varying degrees. Even the original Star Wars, more then a decade ago, was a cross between Errol Flynn and WWII aviation genre.

[Toastmaker]

Yes, I suppose that's true. Easier than having to come up with something original.

[Hans Jaeger]

To a certain extent it's not the story but the telling. There is hardly a new theme but there are new ways to tell an old theme, and the odd new twist to insert.

If the movie is a visual feast, which by all accounts it is, maybe the story is enough to carry it.

I'm looking forward to seeing the movie.

[Odie]

As they taught us in Journalism school, there are only 13 original plot-lines in the literary world; all the rest are variations of the 13. Something at some point is going to get repeated.

[Snuffy]

Actually believe it or not ... I have no insterest in seeing this and I'll probably miss it the first couple times it plays on HBO too.