The world really needs to be rid of these people ...

[Snuffy]

Somali women whipped for wearing bras. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568524,00.html?test=latestnews)

The idiots call it deception ... go figure.

[Toastmaker]

Somalia. . . . may as well be people from another planet.

[CybrSlydr]

Same ones that gave a small armory to a 17 year old for his knowledge of the Koran.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLH480614

[Hans Jaeger]

Somalia. . . . may as well be people from another planet.

Right on, Toast.

[6s.]

Somalis would probably say the same about westerners - they eat unclean food, drink alcohol, allow their women to go half naked, spend for their pets on a single week enough to sustain a somali family for a year...

Isn't truth in the eye of the beholder?

[Snuffy]

Somalis would probably say the same about westerners - they eat unclean food, drink alcohol, allow their women to go half naked, spend for their pets on a single week enough to sustain a somali family for a year...

Isn't truth in the eye of the beholder?

No, "truth" isn't in the eye of the beholder. If you have a global society who abides by a particular set of moral laws and codes, and one group that stands against that code and law it does not make them right over the rest of society.

The whole of the earth is trying to live a current modern life in this 21st century, those clowns, (and its not just Somalis,) are kicking fighting and screaming about being drug into the 21st century with the rest of us.

They will never be accepted by the world society as a whole unless they too adapt their way of life that is coincidental with the rest of the world.

[Toastmaker]

I would think that "some truths are held to be self-evident".

Muslim Sharia law and it's associated customs are often regarded as what they are - barbaric and abusive to certain humans (their women and any non-believer, for example) for no other reason than an ancient set of patriachial beliefs from around the 13th century.

Relevant and acceptable now? I think not. Humanity has advanced a bit beyond that, have we not? Those who wish to try to live in that past should expect to be ostracized from modern societies.

If we had any balls, such practices would be considered internationally illegal, regardless of religious beliefs.

[6s.]

The whole of the earth is trying to live a current modern life in this 21st centuryOnly in your dreams, unless of course if you're the whole of the earth all by yourself. You probably think you are.

Ever heard of out-of-the-box thinking? You may want to give a try.

[Snuffy]

You're intentional ingoring of it 6 doesn't make your thoughts or comments right either ... get with the program, the world society is advancing and groups of people who do not advance with it are the ones left behind as backwards.

Now if you want to feel backwards, knock your socks off, I really could care less.

[CybrSlydr]

6, sometimes I can't tell if you're trying to take the piss or what.

[Snuffy]

Only in your dreams, unless of course if you're the whole of the earth all by yourself. You probably think you are.

Ever heard of out-of-the-box thinking? You may want to give a try.

Nice to see you throw your lot in with these assholes then 6 ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568610,00.html?test=latestnews

[Snuffy]

6, sometimes I can't tell if you're trying to take the piss or what.

Nah, Cyber, he's just irritated that I'm right this time ... and his nature is always argumentative so he had to oppose what I said.

:prop:

[Hans Jaeger]

Somalis would probably say the same about westerners - they eat unclean food, drink alcohol, allow their women to go half naked, spend for their pets on a single week enough to sustain a somali family for a year... Isn't truth in the eye of the beholder?

I guess they can do what they want in their own little cesspool.

When it comes to being accepted in the modern framework of nations they
are, however, pissing in their own boots.

[6s.]

Of course, we westerners alone - and the more to the west, the better - have a right vision of the world as it is and as it should be.

Samuel Huntington has been proven wrong many times, but he ain't dead obviously :rolleyes:

BTW, snuffy, not agreeing with your piss-poor comments does not equate to supporting medieval behaviours. I know you're having hard times sorting this out. One day... ;)
Maybe a nice first step should be reading Montesquieu's "Persian Letters" (1721).

[Hans Jaeger]

Of course, we westerners alone - and the more to the west, the better - have a right vision of the world as it is and as it should be.


Of course. :)

Why should we give up the power and influence amassed over the last several centuries?

Not to say that everyone needs to be coerced into thinking the way that we do, but on
the other hand we don't have to change our thinking for others either.

[Snuffy]

... BTW, snuffy, not agreeing with your piss-poor comments does not equate to supporting medieval behaviours. I know you're having hard times sorting this out. One day... ;) ...

:biglol:

Yer so full of ... :horse:

[kurt190]

Of course. :)

Why should we give up the power and influence amassed over the last several centuries?

Not to say that everyone needs to be coerced into thinking the way that we do, but on
the other hand we don't have to change our thinking for others either.

While I agree with you to a large a degree its only by understanding the real roots abd issues of problems that you can solve them. Half of the problems we experience today are rooted in the issues resulting from our activities in the past - whether they be imperial, commercial, religious or neo-colonial.

kurt

[Hans Jaeger]

What's done is done.

Nothing was ever built out of a sense of grievance being taken to extremes, whether the sense of grievance has a foundation or not.

[MaskRider]

Ever heard of out-of-the-box thinking? You may want to give a try.

Just don't suggest it to your cat.
http://www.mask-rider.com/outsidethebox.jpg