Limbaugh in charge of the RAMS ?

[Uncleal]

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/limbaugh_targeted_by_obama_off.html

Not while I'm President !

OK, I'll wait :faintthud:

[Trans_23]

"Historically politicians have been prone to vindictive and petty behavior, but never in American history has someone had so much power to pummel his political opponents as President Obama. With control over banks, insurance companies, car companies, media (sports media included) and unions (like the NFL players union), Obama tentacles seem to penetrate into nearly every corner of the nation."

Paybacks are a mother ****er! I feel an IRS audit coming your way Unceal. :D

[Uncleal]

Paybacks are a mother ****er! I feel an IRS audit coming your way Unceal. :D

BRING IT ON . . . . I await your arrival, not me personally, but it's about time those Tax Lawyers, I've been paying a retainer to all these years, earn their keep

[Blue Devil]

YOU'RE MINE (OBAMA SONG PARODY)

[Uncleal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL-EvvyGnmg

[Hans Jaeger]

OOC... the guy's got a point.

Reminds me of walking around Washington DC a few weeks ago, only I
could understand the OOC better. :)

My wife and I ran across a few quick coversations of African-American
people talking to each other where we put together what we both heard
and still only got about 50% of the sense of it. Not that we minded ---
it was interesting and enjoyable.

We met some very nice black people on our trip (Is it still OK to say
"Black"?) Not to make a big deal out of it, but where we come from we
hardly ever see a black person, and when we talk to them, they sound
the same as us.

For nice people I'm thinking particularly of a gentleman who drove our
hotel shuttle bus in Pittsburgh and chauffered us around several times.
What a decent guy - and funny to boot. And another who rode the
Mon Incline car with us and we chewed the fat about the Steelers
(and how could they lose to Cinci?!) :D

Anyway, I didn't mean to sidetrack the thread. Just some "tourist"
comments; not intended to offend in any way.

[Hans Jaeger]

But to address the main point, the NFL doesn't need that kind of controversy --- that's the thing they shy away from.

They're selling a product, and they're conscious of product image.

[Toastmaker]

Conscious of product image ?? Not so sure about that after they return someone like Michael Vick to his former position as if nothing happened.







:beach3:=:)

[Snuffy]

In my books Black is more preferable than African-American.

If you're born in this country you are a product of this country and not some other country to be hyphenated with America.

:horse1:

[Blue Devil]

But to address the main point, the NFL doesn't need that kind of controversy --- that's the thing they shy away from.

They're selling a product, and they're conscious of product image.

You must be joking...?

This is the NFL, ...the National Felon's League.

I can't think of ONE instance where the NFL commissioner and owners, ...and not the Courts and Prison, ...determined the eligibility of an indiscreet player.

They are almost as bad as the NBA.

Micheal Vick is a perfect, but by no means exclusive, example.

If they were interested in Image, ...the next snap he would ever take would be with his buddies in the park.

Besides, ...the NFL didn't settle this.

The Racist Left (including Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson) and that ****-Weasel Checketts screwed this pooch.

The Owners never voted on this issue, ...it was tried in the public Media court based on lies.

If the tables were reversed, ...and it was Louis Farrakhan who was bidding for the Rams, ...what do you think the outcome would be?

Do you think that the NAACP and the ACLU would allow the public or the NFL to do anything other than the standard business practice? (and if he lost, ...they'd say the Owners and Commissioner were Racists and sue anyway.)

This thing is a slam-dunk lawsuit for Rush any time he wants it, ...and after he gets tired of undressing those racist malcontents in public, ...he may just do that. (although after he gets done with them, ...he'll have made more money off them than the Rams deal, and there probably won't de enough left of them to sue.)

[Hans Jaeger]

Conscious of product image ?? Not so sure about that after they return someone like Michael Vick to his former position as if nothing happened.

You can see already that it didn't hurt their image any... only a few protests by PETA nuts and it's quietly run its course. The American public (those who cared) appear to have largely forgiven Vick.


You must be joking...?
This is the NFL, ...the National Felon's League.

I don't think most people see it that way. The NFL often fines and sanctions players who step out of line.

Out of a pool of thousands of players, what percentage would you say get into trouble every year? More than Members of Congress? :)

[Blue Devil]

...Out of a pool of thousands of players, what percentage would you say get into trouble every year? More than Members of Congress? :)

Now THAT is an irrelevant choice...

Comparing criminal activity in the NFL to Congress is like comparing it to San Quentin cell-block D. (or the Odinga Administration)


Try MLB, the great American past-time.

[Hans Jaeger]

Now THAT is an irrelevant choice...
Try MLB, the great American past-time.

Sure, why not. That cesspool of performance-enhancing drugs.

So anyway, where's that percentage estimate?

[Blue Devil]

Sure, why not. That cesspool of performance-enhancing drugs.

So anyway, where's that percentage estimate?


performance-enhancing drugs arn't against the law, ...just the rules.

How about illegal drugs, gambling, drunk driving, dogfighting, murder, weapons violations, vehicular manslaughter, assault and battery, ...

[Hans Jaeger]

performance-enhancing drugs arn't against the law, ...just the rules.

OK, you want to split it up that way. Then performance-enhancing drugs are simply something that detracts from product image, which was the key factor here, much to the detriment of the "sport".


How about illegal drugs, gambling, drunk driving, dogfighting, murder, weapons violations, vehicular manslaughter, assault and battery, ...

OK, so percentage-wise... ?

[Blue Devil]

OK, you want to split it up that way. Then performance-enhancing drugs are simply something that detracts from product image, which was the key factor here, much to the detriment of the "sport".



OK, so percentage-wise... ?

The key factor here was that Rush Limbaugh's Civil Liberties of Property Ownership, ...along with his right to invest, risk, and possibly profit from Capitalism was violated by slanderous, racist lying ****-Weasels of the Sharpton/Jackson variety, ...MSM buffoons AKA Rick Sanchez, ...a myopic Lib NFL Official, ...and his cheese-dick business partner...

As for the stasts, ...I'll check. (every time I do a search, ...all I get are NBA and NFL hits...)

[Hans Jaeger]

The key factor here was that Rush Limbaugh's Civil Liberties of Property Ownership, ...along with his right to invest...

Nobody has a "right to invest" anywhere they want. Where did you get that notion from???


As for the stasts, ...I'll check. (every time I do a search, ...all I get are NBA and NFL hits...)

NFL would be the one you want.

[Blue Devil]

Nobody has a "right to invest" anywhere they want. Where did you get that notion from???

That would be our Constitution (file:///O:/Research/-%20POLITICAL/The%20Constitution%20of%20the%20United%20States%20 of%20America/midnightbeach.com/US-Constitution.htm)...

Lib⋅er⋅ty
– noun
- freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.
- A right or immunity to engage in certain actions without control or interference: the liberties protected by the Bill of Rights.

It's mentioned a few times...

[Hans Jaeger]

That would be our constitution

Nope, sorry. That doesn't apply in the business world. You can't just invest in anything you want.
You have to meet certain criteria, which the seller can set. If you don't, the seller can refuse to
sell to you.

You seem to have have an overblown idea of what "liberty" means.

[Blue Devil]

Nope, sorry. That doesn't apply in the business world. You can't just invest in anything you want.
You have to meet certain criteria, which the seller can set. If you don't, the seller can refuse to
sell to you.

You seem to have have an overblown idea of what "liberty" means.

Offer, Acceptance, compensation, contractual obligations are not the issue here.

For sale, for the stated/advertised price, ...is at the discretion of the buyer.

ANY refusal to sell when the price is met is against the law. (outside of Anti-trust or SEC regulations)

The NFL team sale was essentially the same, ...with the addition of the acceptance by the other owners.

We are free to purchase or invest at OUR discretion.

We also have the stock market.

That is the way it is here.

[Hans Jaeger]

We are free to purchase or invest at OUR discretion.


What you describe is NOT unique to the USA; it's the same in all free-market first world countries, so there are no surprises there.

However, you are NOT free to invest when the investment involves negotiations, which often deal with things like attitude, the "fit" to the company, and other intangibles. A company has a right to turn down a potential investor, or to take a lower bid if the company feels that the fit is better, or even to decide not to sell at all even if a price is met.

I don't see how you can fail to understand that. You think that at the corporate level, money in hand equates to a RIGHT to invest. It does not.

Have a good look at Jim Balsillie's bid to buy the Phoenix Coyotes of the NHL. It's his third failure. Balsillie is a Canadian billionaire who founded Research in Motion, makers of the Blsckberry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Balsillie


Balsillie has been active in his efforts to buy a National Hockey League franchise with the overt intention of moving whichever franchise he buys to Hamilton, Ontario. He has so far bid on at least three teams: Balsillie walked away from an attempt to purchase the Pittsburgh Penguins after he claimed the NHL had interfered with the process. The Nashville Predators rebuffed his offers because of his desire to move the team to Hamilton, while a third offer to buy the bankrupt Phoenix Coyotes, with the same precondition, has been rejected.

Balsillie has also had discussions with the Buffalo Sabres about purchasing that team, but no offer was made.[3] The Sabres have been one of the largest opponents of a Hamilton NHL franchise, due to the fact that much of the Sabres' fan base comes from that territory.[4] The league itself also opposes any potential move to Hamilton.

http://www.canada.com/sports/Balsillie+Anyone/1842506/story.html


The league made it official Wednesday — admissible in court, even — when its board of governors unanimously rejected Balsillie’s ownership bid for the Phoenix Coyotes after meeting with bidders in Chicago. Instead, the board approved the competing bid of Chicago White Sox and Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf, whose bid is for less money, but would keep the team moored in Phoenix.

Does this clarify...

[Blue Devil]

...However, you are NOT free to invest when the investment involves negotiations, which often deal with things like attitude, the "fit" to the company, and other intangibles. A company has a right to turn down a potential investor, or to take a lower bid if the company feels that the fit is better, or even to decide not to sell at all even if a price is met.

I already addressed contract negotiations (you left out responsive/responsible bidder)

This is not the issue.

As for corporate investment, ...money still talks, right up to and including a hostile takeover.

If it is for sale, it is for sale to everyone.

Now, as for the NFL, ...This is a private association with its own by-laws.

One of which is an Acceptance vote.

That has nothing to do with this either.

What is relevant is that Limbaugh has the Right to be part of and bid on the Team for sale.

His bid was poisoned by slanderous lies generated by a law firm that may turn out to have a vested interest in one of the bidders.

This in of itself is not illegal, ...but slander and libel is.


It was then propagated and repeated by Racist ****-Weasels and MSM Buffoons.

That is illegal.

He was not allowed to participate in the bid process because of it.

What happened to Jim Balsillie might have happened to Limbaugh's bid as well, ...that is the Leagues prerogative.

But because of the slander, ...we or Limbaugh will never know.

THAT is the relevant point.


Now, ...if you want to split hares, ...field-dress a rabbit.

[Hans Jaeger]

Now, ...if you want to split hares, ...field-dress a rabbit.

Exactly what you are attempting to do, since your point about LIBERTY meaning if you have the money you can buy it is up in smoke.

OK, I'm done. You'll never admit you're wrong - which you are - and I'm tired of explaining. Anybody else reading this thread can judge for themselves.

Have fun.