The Power & Danger of Iconography

[Blue Devil]

PJTV: The Power & Danger of Iconography

Life's a classroom. (there'll be a test on it later...)

LOL!

[bzhyoyo]

brilliant lecture, but blame it just on Obama?
Come on, your the country that invented all the modern marketing and advertising techniques and that surprises you?

[Toastmaker]

brilliant lecture, but blame it just on Obama?
Come on, your the country that invented all the modern marketing and advertising techniques and that surprises you?





Either you're just joking a bit about this or you've discounted entirely all efforts by Europe, Asia and Latin America in home-grown and designed marketing skills & tactics globally.

[Blue Devil]

brilliant lecture, but blame it just on Obama?
Come on, your the country that invented all the modern marketing and advertising techniques and that surprises you?

This is unprecedented in American history.

This clown has put himself, ...and his circus, ...above the office he was elected to occupy that gave him that power.

He has ignored his oath and responsibility as the President of our Nation employed by WE, the People...

...and become a demagogue dictator.

He is every bit as scary as Hitler and Stalin, ...he just hasn't grown to their proportion.

America should squash him like the parasite he is.

His nest will go in 2010, ...and then we will be rid of him in 2012, ...if their is anything left of our Country by then.

The Government Debt Bomb (http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-borrowing-til-we-drop-the-government-debt-bomb-2009-9)

[bzhyoyo]

I guess you watched too much horror movies in your childhood and like to be afraid. So be it.

[Nausicaa]

DOOM !! DOOM!!

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080715/Death-scenes/Indiana-Jones-heart_l.jpg

[Blue Devil]

I guess you watched too much horror movies in your childhood and like to be afraid. So be it.

Yeah, ...a few...

[Nausicaa]

For your insults of the French you deserve some spanking of your ignorant butt with a good baguette. I, a German, report volunteer for this pedagogic activity. Instead of typing a lot of hysterical nonsense about Stalin and Hitler on this board you should quit for 6 months and read some history books. I recommend to start with 1804, then work your way slowly up to 1944 while picking up some books about 1781 and 1918 along the way. Maybe then you get some order in your braincells, and a little respect.

[USCG76]

BD, love the 3rd pic.

[Toastmaker]

For your your insults of the French you deserve some spanking of your ignorant butt with a good baguette. I, a German, report volunteer for this pedagogic activity. Instead of typing a lot of hysterical nonsense about Stalin and Hitler on this board you should quit for 6 months and read some history books. I recommend to start with 1804, then work your way slowly up to 1944 while picking up some books about 1781 and 1918 along the way. Maybe then you get some order in your braincells, and a little respect.




It's a little disturbing, Nausicaa, that you're so interested in this. . .

[Willy]

You know how it is. He's Naus and he's always right. The rest of us should quit looking at Obama and adore him instead. :BS:

[Blue Devil]

For your your insults of the French you deserve some spanking of your ignorant butt with a good baguette. I, a German, report volunteer for this pedagogic activity. Instead of typing a lot of hysterical nonsense about Stalin and Hitler on this board you should quit for 6 months and read some history books. I recommend to start with 1804, then work your way slowly up to 1944 while picking up some books about 1781 and 1918 along the way. Maybe then you get some order in your braincells, and a little respect.

French? ...spanking? ...butt? ...baguette...?

They've got laws against that over here, ...so you'll have to play with your baguette alone.


As for the books, ...I've read'em.


Being German doesn't provide any genetic insight into the cause and dynamic of Hitler's political campaign.

And, ...as most of the German volks were either ignorant or self-deluded regarding the true motivation, philosophies, and methods of Hitler's rise to power, ...declaring it as a point of academic high-ground in this discussion is self-defeating.


As for the French...

I have thanked the arrogant myopic bastards on numerous occasions (including this forum) for their assistance in our War of Independents against the British.


And the books...

My most recent start is Jeff Shaara's "The Rising Tide," which deals with North Africa and the Mediterranean theaters of '42-'43 WWII.

A quick study of General Henri Giraud will confirm the "arrogant myopic bastard" status.

The Maginot Line delusion and the denial of the importance of the German Rhine-land occupation by the French Generals and Neville Chamberlain (a British variety arrogant myopic bastard) also supports it.

The 1918 success' were British and American, ...because the arrogant myopic bastard French Generals had already slaughtered their Armies in repeated frontal assaults against interlaced German machine-gun positions.

The French Revolution was one of the French peoples greatest historical milestones, ...but they had to be starved to death to accomplish it.

And then Napoleon lowered the average height of the Frenchman by 15 centimeters in the name of arrogant myopic bastard French Imperialism over the next decade.

No offense.

P.S. can't stand Mayonnaise either.

EDIT: I am, however, a big fan of Alexis De Tocqueville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville), ...but he falls decidedly outside the arrogant myopic bastard French category.

[Toastmaker]

Christ, man - what have you got against mayonnaise ?? I love it - especially on subs and turkey sandwiches ! (Kraft brand only, please)

It's the most apolitical dressing I know of, not like that greasy French, brutish Russian and that international abomination - Thousand Island. . .


:beach3:

[Panthera Pardus Nigresco]

McCain was no steak.....

You could've wrapped him in solid gold & the republicans still would have lost....

[Blue Devil]

Christ, man - what have you got against mayonnaise ?? I love it - especially on subs and turkey sandwiches ! (Kraft brand only, please)

It's the most apolitical dressing I know of, not like that greasy French, brutish Russian and that international abomination - Thousand Island. . .


:beach3:

Yeah, ...leave that sandwich out for eight hours and you'll be pukin' for days.


One part catsup, three parts Tabasco sauce.

(It also doubles as a sex lubricant, ...but you best be wearing a helmet.)

[Blue Devil]

McCain was no steak.....

You could've wrapped him in solid gold & the republicans still would have lost....

Yep, ...useful as drift-wood.

[Toastmaker]

McCain was no steak.....

You could've wrapped him in solid gold & the republicans still would have lost....





Not so sure about that, P. Obama won 52% of the popular election with McCain at 48%. That ain't exactly a landslide.

[Panthera Pardus Nigresco]

Not so sure about that, P. Obama won 52% of the popular election with McCain at 48%. That ain't exactly a landslide.

Remember....
The right was extremely overconfident & generally thought Obama didn't have a chance....

[bzhyoyo]

Blue Devil, that may surprise you but I agree with you concerning the crass stupidity of French generals during WWI and their short-sightedness in preparation of WWII. On the other hand, to say the victory in 1918 was just an American and British affair is just one of your outlandish claims but I suppose you can't help it and I'm used to them now and treat them accordingly (same as the "terrorist" actions of the US administration...).

I'd be interested in your opinion about De Gaulle...
What kind of bastard was he? Just arrogant, I suppose ;)
And concerning your thanks in our help with your revolution: you're welcome!

[Nausicaa]

French? ...spanking? ...butt? ...baguette...?
They've got laws against that over here, ...so you'll have to play with your baguette alone.

You know, one usually doesn't play with a baguette, but with a braguette. ;-)



As for the books, ...I've read'em.
Ah? lol



Being German doesn't provide any genetic insight into the cause and dynamic of Hitler's political campaign.
Being a ultra right wing American appearently neither !


And, ...as most of the German volks were either ignorant or self-deluded regarding the true motivation, philosophies, and methods of Hitler's rise to power, ...declaring it as a point of academic high-ground in this discussion is self-defeating.
As ignorant as you of the right wing blogosphere, and weazel news propaganda you parrot every day I guess?



As for the French...

I have thanked the arrogant myopic bastards on numerous occasions (including this forum) for their assistance in our War of Independents against the British.
Really? where ?



The 1918 success' were British and American,
LOL I guess it's back to the history books after all then. Or look in Wiki under "F" if you want something faster.


The French Revolution was one of the French peoples greatest historical milestones, ...but they had to be starved to death to accomplish it.
Ah like others did make historical revolutions while eating muffins and drinking coffee. Those weak French! Lazy bastards !


And then Napoleon lowered the average height of the Frenchman by 15 centimeters in the name of arrogant myopic bastard French Imperialism over the next decade.
Yep and taking all Europe when he was not too busy with the size of clothes. Those weak lazy French again !


No offense.
I didn't take any, I think Lionel should.


P.S. can't stand Mayonnaise either.
No problem, I can't stand American junk food.

[Blue Devil]

As ignorant as you of the right wing blogosphere, and weazel news propaganda you parrot every day I guess?

I'm not chanting "Hope" and "Change", ...and naming my boys "Barack"...



LOL I guess it's back to the history books after all then. Or look in Wiki under "F" if you want something faster.

World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) (wikipedia.org)


1917–1918

Events of 1917 proved decisive in ending the war, although their effects were not fully felt until 1918. The British naval blockade began to have a serious impact on Germany. In response, in February 1917, the German General Staff convinced Chancellor Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg to declare unrestricted submarine warfare, with the goal of starving Britain out of the war. Tonnage sunk rose above 500,000 tons per month from February to July. It peaked at 860,000 tons in April. After July, the reintroduced convoy system became extremely effective in neutralizing the U-boat threat. Britain was safe from starvation and German industrial output fell.

On 3 May 1917 during the Nivelle Offensive the weary French 2nd Colonial Division, veterans of the Battle of Verdun, refused their orders, arriving drunk and without their weapons. Their officers lacked the means to punish an entire division, and harsh measures were not immediately implemented. There upon the mutinies afflicted 54 French divisions and saw 20,000 men desert. The other Allied forces attacked but received massive casualties.[57] However, appeals to patriotism and duty, as well as mass arrests and trials, encouraged the soldiers to return to defend their trenches, although the French soldiers refused to participate in further offensive action.[58] Robert Nivelle was removed from command by 15 May, replaced by General Philippe Pétain, who suspended bloody large-scale attacks.


Allied victory: summer and autumn 1918

The Allied counteroffensive, known as the Hundred Days Offensive, began on 8 August 1918. The Battle of Amiens developed with III Corps Fourth British Army on the left, the First French Army on the right, and the Australian and Canadian Corps spearheading the offensive in the centre through Harbonnières.[71][72] It involved 414 tanks of the Mark IV and Mark V type, and 120,000 men. They advanced 12 kilometers (7 miles) into German-held territory in just seven hours. Erich Ludendorff referred to this day as the "Black Day of the German army".[71][73]...

...The Allied attack on the Hindenburg Line began on 26 September. 260,000 U.S. soldiers went "over the top". All initial objectives were captured; the U.S. 79th Infantry Division, which met stiff resistance at Montfaucon, took an extra day to capture its objective. The U.S. Army stalled due to supply problems because its inexperienced headquarters had to cope with large units and a difficult landscape.[80] At the same time, French units broke through in Champagne and closed on the Belgian frontier.[citation needed] The most significant advance came from Commonwealth units, as they entered Belgium.[citation needed] The last Belgian town to be liberated before the armistice was Ghent, which the Germans held as a pivot until Allied artillery was brought up.[81][82] The German army had to shorten its front and use the Dutch frontier as an anchor to fight rear-guard actions.

By October, it was evident that Germany could no longer mount a successful defence.[citation needed] They were increasingly outnumbered, with few new recruits. Rations were cut. Ludendorff decided, on 1 October,[citation needed] that Germany had two ways out—total annihilation or an armistice. He recommended the latter at a summit of senior German officials. Allied pressure did not let up.

Meanwhile, news of Germany's impending military defeat spread throughout the German armed forces. The threat of mutiny was rife. Admiral Reinhard Scheer and Ludendorff decided to launch a last attempt to restore the "valour" of the German Navy. Knowing the government of Max von Baden would veto any such action, Ludendorff decided not to inform him. Nonetheless, word of the impending assault reached sailors at Kiel. Many rebelled and were arrested, refusing to be part of a naval offensive which they believed to be suicidal. Ludendorff took the blame—the Kaiser dismissed him on 26 October. The collapse of the Balkans meant that Germany was about to lose its main supplies of oil and food. The reserves had been used up, but U.S. troops kept arriving at the rate of 10,000 per day.[83]

Having suffered over 6 million casualties, Germany moved toward peace.

Battle of Amiens (1918) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Amiens_(1918)) (wikipedia.org)

Second Battle of the Marne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_the_Marne) (wikipedia.org)