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Snuffy
08-25-2009, 08:50 AM
This is a failure ... all in the name of progress and greed.

A true pity.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,542362,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,542362,00.html)


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Toastmaker
08-25-2009, 10:29 AM
Snuffy, the Wal-Mart will not even be within sight of the 2700 acre battlefield. And the arguement that it will bring congestion is a reverse error. Wal-Mart only builds stores in areas where a market already exists for it. . .

For all intents and purposes, the entire state of Virgina was a battlefield at one time or another in the Civil War -

MaskRider
08-25-2009, 10:47 AM
Trivia- what was the significance of the name "Orange" during the Wilderness Campaign?

Snuffy
08-25-2009, 12:13 PM
Trivia- what was the significance of the name "Orange" during the Wilderness Campaign?

Don't know if I know the one about orange/oranges but I do know the one about lemons ... :thumbs up:

CybrSlydr
08-25-2009, 01:49 PM
I dunno, I just have this gut reaction that it's the principle of the thing. I just don't like having some giant shopping plaza near the battlefield. Sems disrespectful.

Hans Jaeger
08-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Trivia- what was the significance of the name "Orange" during the Wilderness Campaign?

Orange Turnpike?

AckAck
08-25-2009, 10:46 PM
I dunno, I just have this gut reaction that it's the principle of the thing. I just don't like having some giant shopping plaza near the battlefield. Sems disrespectful.

How far away is far enough? To extrapolate what Toast said, perhaps we need to evacuate the states of Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Washington D.C., Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, North and South Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia. (have to count the Indian battles/massacres at the hands of the Union Soldiers too, don't we?).

Although, D.C. might be a good idea...

Brian

CybrSlydr
08-26-2009, 09:06 AM
I know - I understand what they're saying - and that it's not actually on the battlefield... But like I said, my gut reaction is that I would be against it.

Snuffy
08-26-2009, 09:30 AM
For those of you who may be interested. Lets set some definitions of what comprises "the battlefield".

What is being preserved to day as "the battlefield" is only a very small segment of what was actually "the whole battlefield". The site of the wal-mart is going on land that was actually a part of "the historic battlefield" and on land that was used by both north and south to manouver troops and engaged in conflict (read shed American blood) on.

There are three maps in the following link, the one that comes up first is the one that shows the "current preserved battlefield" boundries and the proposed site of the wally world. The other two are maps of "the actual battlefield area" encompassed by the conflict of 1864. If my guess is right, (and thats cuz I can't read these maps,they're too small,) the yellow block indicated is where wally world wanted(s) to build their store, note where that yellow is in relation to the actual period maps.

Though this land is not part of "the current preserved battlefield", it is on land that was used in the battle, and was land that the preservation society was hoping one day to get ...

Anyhow, here's the link: http://www.civilwar.org/battlefields/wilderness/maps/wildernesswalmartmap.html

Enjoy

Nausicaa
08-26-2009, 07:33 PM
This is a failure ... all in the name of progress and greed.


Guess that is what you get in a society based a hundred percent on capitalism.
Oops, sorry couldn't stop myself.;)

Hans Jaeger
08-26-2009, 08:28 PM
Oops, sorry couldn't stop myself.;)

Of course not. All the examples of history preserved in the USA didn't stop you either. ;)

Toastmaker
08-26-2009, 09:14 PM
Nausicaa, if you are so anti-capitalism are we to assume you are more of a socialist ?? Don't you work in a profit-loss business yourself ?