'Hot-For-Teacher Night'

[Panthera Pardus Nigresco]

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7655782&page=1

[Toastmaker]

If this is what it takes to entertain the American public, we've come a long way. . . .

in the opposite direction -


:(

[Panthera Pardus Nigresco]

If this is what it takes to entertain the American public, we've come a long way. . . .

in the opposite direction -


:(

Let's not forget to include all the "reality" shows....

[Snuffy]

I'm sure they won't miss my money ..

[Mindwarp]

Unbelievable, and sad, but it's to be expected from today's society. Are there not any decency laws that this is violating?

[CybrSlydr]

What's the problem? She paid her debt for her crimes, she and the former student are married adults...

[Mindwarp]

What's the problem? She paid her debt for her crimes, she and the former student are married adults...

The problem is with the nature of the person they're dealing with, a known child rapist and that they're are cashing in on that fact. It's disgusting.

[CybrSlydr]

The problem is with the nature of the person they're dealing with, a known child rapist and that they're are cashing in on that fact. It's disgusting.



Yes, they're cashing in almost 14 years after the fact...

[Mindwarp]

Yes, they're cashing in almost 14 years after the fact...

You really believe there's nothing wrong here do you? What does time have to do with forgetting that she raped a child? Then why not let Charles Manson out of jail? I mean it's been over 30 years.

[CybrSlydr]

So you're equating rape with murder?

[Mindwarp]

So you're equating rape with murder?

Although I never said anything close to that, in terms of disgusting acts against humanity, they're high on the list.

Now let's get back to your support of child rapists, why do you hate kids so much?

[CybrSlydr]

I thought we were supposed to forgive and forget.

As for the equation, you offered that with saying if we forget what she's done, why not let Manson out?

There is a huge difference between a serial killer and her.

[bzhyoyo]

I thought rape meant no consent to have sexual intercourse. The guy is a masochist then.

[Mindwarp]

So that's your threshold for what's revolting to your human nature? Anything below a serial killer is fine in your book?

[Blue Devil]

So you're equating rape with murder?

I always equated this crime as more of an Assault...

...with a friendly weapon.


(...as long as she is just a stamp...)

[Toastmaker]

Come on, Cyber - do you really not see the objectionable point here ?

That any kind of ****-stain on society can be elevated to the level of "entertainment" star in these seriously twisted times we find ourselves in ?

[Mindwarp]

I always equated this crime as more of an Assault...

...with a friendly weapon.


(...as long as she is just a stamp...)

What? Makes no sense to me.

[Hans Jaeger]

My taste for reality shows begins and ends with "Survivor" and "The Amazing Race".

As for Letourneau, I simply can't help but apply a double standard. An adult man having sex with a 12 year old girl is totally reprehensible and criminal no matter what the circumstances.

But if I put myself in the shoes of being 12 again and having a woman trying to have sex with me, I can't think of any damage it might have done to me. Possibly quite the contrary.

Anyway, it's criminal yes, and definitely shouldn't have happened between a teacher and a student, but I can't find the level of outrage to call it rape or equate it with Charles Manson.

[Snuffy]

You can't rape the willing.

[Mindwarp]

Wow, I'm shocked to so see so many members here in support of raping children. You guys are truely disgusting. I'm out of this thread.

[Snuffy]

Wow, I'm shocked to so see so many members here in support of raping children. You guys are truely disgusting. I'm out of this thread.

Before you go blasting outta here ... know that the comment I made is in no way condoning or accepting "child raping". It was more a jab at Hans about his comment about him not having any adverse affects from an incident like this if it were to have happened to him.

There is a big difference though between being lured into a "consensual" act of sex between people and non consensual forced sex on people.

I'll bet you a dollar to a doughnut, that the actions here between this woman and the child of the time was not a forced sexual contact. I'm sure she did everything in her power to make herself appealing to this kid so that by and over time, his natural male insticts took over.

Even so, I still do not accept it as it is, the woman was/is sick. There is obviously a emotional problem there where she, being a married mother already, desired to have a young boy. I'm sure the scientific minds in this community can come up with a name for the illness.

But to reinforce my original comment. You can not rape the willing. It is by its willingness ..."consensual" ... whether its moral or not is what makes it wrong.

[Toastmaker]

. . . desired to have a young boy. I'm sure the scientific minds in this community can come up with a name for the illness.






Pedophelia.

[Hans Jaeger]

There is a big difference though between being lured into a "consensual" act of sex between people and non consensual forced sex on people.

But, to be fair, consensual sex, when it involves a minor giving consent for sex with an adult, when they don't really know what they're doing, is also not right.

I'm looking at it from the viewpoint of myself as I was when I was 12. I would have consented, if I liked the woman, and I would have been no worse off for it. The attitude and consequences for a young girl can be much different. That's where my double standard comes in.

My parents would have been outraged, but I would have never told them, just like they don't know about any of my other experiences when I reached puberty.

It was right to send that woman to jail because she betrayed her trust as a teacher, and it's an embarrassment and morally reprehensible for her to try to make money from the situation now.

[CybrSlydr]

Face it guys - the less of a deal is made of this, the quicker it goes away.

As such, I don't care.

[Blue Devil]

What? Makes no sense to me.

(...as long as she is just a stamp...)

...like a postage stamp...

Lick'em, ...Stick'em, ...and send'em on their way...


In the real world, ...she's just a slut, ...not a predator.

She did not use her position of authority to coerce or blackmail sex, ...only to meet and have access to young men. (that by nature will stick anything that doesn't eat them first, ...much less a teacher)

Lose her job? ...of course.

Horse-whipped by the PTA and run out of town? ...affirmative.

Ruin the rest of her life for being a horny human? ...


...throw the first stone.

[Hans Jaeger]

Ruin the rest of her life for being a horny human? ...
...throw the first stone.

A lot has to do with her being a woman. She gets somewhat of a free pass on some things because of her sex, i.e. "a danger to society".

That's why they can even contemplate this 'Hot-For-Teacher Night' idea, screwy as it is.

A male is a lot more dangerous.

[Blue Devil]

A lot has to do with her being a woman. She gets somewhat of a free pass on some things because of her sex, i.e. "a danger to society".

That's why they can even contemplate this 'Hot-For-Teacher Night' idea, screwy as it is.

A male is a lot more dangerous.

In consensual sex, ...as in Baseball...

...It's the Pitcher, ...not the Catcher, ...that gets the credit for the W/L of the game.

[Mindwarp]

Ruin the rest of her life for being a horny human? ...


...throw the first stone.

I will then. The problem with your stance is not that she was horny, it's that she was horny for underage kids and furthermore acted upon it.


A lot has to do with her being a woman. She gets somewhat of a free pass on some things because of her sex, i.e. "a danger to society".

That's why they can even contemplate this 'Hot-For-Teacher Night' idea, screwy as it is.

A male is a lot more dangerous.

Wrong! Karla Homolka. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka

All the statements attributed to male predators are applicable to women as well. They're messed-up in the head.

[Hans Jaeger]

Wrong! Karla Homolka. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka


Yes, you're definitely right about her, although her husband likely made her a lot more dangerous than had she acted on her own.

I was talking in a general sense, obviously. There are always exceptions but the norm is that female sexual predators are a lot less dangerous than males.

[Blue Devil]

I will then. The problem with your stance is not that she was horny, it's that she was horny for underage kids and furthermore acted upon it.

True, ...but underage is a legal term, ...not a biological one.

In some States, ...they probably could have been married with parental consent.



Wrong! Karla Homolka. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka

Wow, ...this is very close to the point of this discussion, ...within a couple of parsecs anyway...(1 parsec = 3.26 light-years)



All the statements attributed to male predators are applicable to women as well. They're messed-up in the head.

True as well...

I think she is a slut, ...not a predator.

urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slut)

slut:
- Refers to a sexually promiscuous person, usually female.
- A woman with the morals of a man.


How many other instances of sexual predatory acts, ...with how many different underage males, ...has she committed...?


I still think job termination and horse-whipping would have sufficed...

[Mindwarp]

How many other instances of sexual predatory acts, ...with how many different underage males, ...has she committed...?


What the heck kind of arguement is that!!?!?? One victim should suffice to convince any level headed individual that she is a predator.
:doh:

[Blue Devil]

What the heck kind of arguement is that!!?!?? One victim should suffice to convince any level headed individual that she is a predator.
:doh:

It's "sexual predator" vs. "sex offender"...



en.wikipedia.org

Distinction from sex offenders

The term "sexual predator" is often considered distinct from "sex offender". Many U.S. states also see these differences legally. A sexual offender is a person who has committed a sexual offense. A sexual predator is often used to refer to a person who habitually seeks out sexual situations that are deemed exploitative. However, in some states, the term "sexual predator" is applied to anyone who has been convicted of certain crimes, regardless of whether or not there is a history of similar behavior. In the state of Illinois, for instance, a person convicted of any sex crime against a minor is designated a sexual predator, no matter the nature of the crime (violent versus statutory, a young child versus a teenager, etc.), and regardless of past behavior. This has led to criticism that the term is being misused, or overused, and thus has lost its original meaning and effectiveness.

[Mindwarp]

It's "sexual predator" vs. "sex offender"...


A sexual predator is often used to refer to a person who habitually seeks out sexual situations that are deemed exploitative

Thanks for making my point.

I still can't believe that some members here are still arguing in defence of a child rapist. She was entrusted with the lives of shildren and she chose to abuse atleast one of them (were there others?). She violated the innocence of a child and no matter how much some guys here want to project their fantasies on this situation, it's a disgusting act against humanity.

For those who point out that she wasn't violent, do you really think that this animal, who's capable of these attrocities, couldn't be one step away from justifying to herself that violence is ok? Do you think a person like this would have calmly accepted if the child rejected her manipulations?

Double-standards are rediculous in normal situations, in this case it's down right mind-boggling that it's not only accepted but cheered on. It really makes me wonder to the mindset of some people.

[Hans Jaeger]

Double standards are commonplace when dealing with the sexes. Where have you been living all your life?

On that same high horse you're riding right now, I'd bet.

[Mindwarp]

Double standards are commonplace when dealing with the sexes. Where have you been living all your life?

On that same high horse you're riding right now, I'd bet.

So wanting to protect children puts me on a high-horse? Why do you hate kids so much?

[Hans Jaeger]

Now you're just being an ass (or you downgraded from the horse).

[Blue Devil]

Thanks for making my point.

I still can't believe that some members here are still arguing in defence of a child rapist. She was entrusted with the lives of shildren and she chose to abuse atleast one of them (were there others?). She violated the innocence of a child and no matter how much some guys here want to project their fantasies on this situation, it's a disgusting act against humanity.

For those who point out that she wasn't violent, do you really think that this animal, who's capable of these attrocities, couldn't be one step away from justifying to herself that violence is ok? Do you think a person like this would have calmly accepted if the child rejected her manipulations?

Double-standards are rediculous in normal situations, in this case it's down right mind-boggling that it's not only accepted but cheered on. It really makes me wonder to the mindset of some people.

It's human biology.

We all agree it was inappropriate.

And the double standard is social, ...not biological.

It just makes it more or less detestable.


Jerry Lee Lewis:

en.wikipedia.org (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lee_Lewis)
...Lewis' turbulent personal life was hidden from the public until a May 1958 British tour where Ray Berry, a news agency reporter at London Airport (the only journalist present), learned about Lewis' third wife, Myra Gale Brown. She was Lewis' first cousin once removed and only 13 years old. (Brown, Lewis, and his management all insisted she was 15.) Lewis was nearly 23 years old. The publicity caused an uproar and the tour was canceled after only three concerts....

The fact is...

...Back before medical/pharmaceutical advances made us live longer, ...and television/video games/federal government managed public education made us stupider/less responsible/economically retarded...

13 years old was of marrying age.

Lives/careers/families were started by responsible 13 year old adults.

Look at this kid.

He obviously had a lot of man in him at 13, ...and she is obviously an emotional retard...

...as long as the parts work, ...and flap "A" fits into slot "B", ...

...Love once again proves that it is not only blind, ...but also reckless.

[Mindwarp]

Now you're just being an ass (or you downgraded from the horse).

Prompted by the inexplicable approval here of abusing children, there's no denying what's been said. I can go back and quote the garbage but it's surely pointless